HOLY SH%!

Not only is there a question about whether it would actually affect the real horrible stuff (I believe while the production of child porn, real child porn, is illegal as it should be, possession of it would still be legal even with this law), but those disgusting gore/rape games and nihilistic induced madness? Most of them won't be affected because they're already R-18.


Now seinen series (series for young adults, but not quite R-18 material though even this is questionable with what they're pushing. Like how PG-13 rated movies here would've been R-rated 10-20 years ago) with the above themes would be affected. And if it was just that, I wouldn't mind 'too' much only because yes, I'm not a huge fan of said material, with sick stuff that shouldn't at least be available to the general public. But, besides not all seinen series have said themes, don't expect a huge drop off of said material because again, most are R-18 and therefore, is unaffected by this law for they're supposedly not available to the general public anyways.
 
One series I'm scared for is the Sekirei series I've been praising for the past couple of weeks. Its a Seinen series, but the only adultish part is the nipple shots, which are on the same caliber as Tenchi Ova episode 4. A show like this getting a R-18 rating means 9 times out of 10, it won't be airing a new season on Tokyo MX in the next year or two. Same with Panty & Stocking and Oreimo
 
Panty and Stocking is lucky. Because it's finishing up before the ban even takes effect in June of 2011. "But what about season 2?" It's a Gainax series. Gainax doesn't understand the concept of Season 2.


Oreimo is almost finished. Though the anime will be done before the Light Novels, if a season 2 doesn't happen (it's possible there would be one. Though apparently the BD/DVD will have extra episodes) they won't have to worry because again, before the ban. Light novels aren't done yet but from what I understand, Oreimo anime is going in a different direction anyways.


I have more to worry about To Aru Majutsu no Index/To Aru Kagaku no Choudenjibou (aka A Certain Magician Index and the spinoff series A Certain Scientific Railgun). Besides action, again, I mentioned how the series was very fanservice heavy. And fanservice heavy with underage girls.


Example...
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/KiyaOfVampires/Yuri/kuroko-shirai-on-mikoto-misaka-yuri.jpg


AFAIK, no problems with the Light Novels because they are excluded. But a third season could run into a lot problems.
 
Thats why I hate seeing people going on these anime forums telling people to calm down, and that nothing will happen. This is a very broad bill, and while yes the series could be put on BD and DVD for R-18, no television broadcast and main stores refusing to sell adult content means some of the anime studios will cut the lights for some of these series from loss of profit.
 
I don't think anyone on this thread said that noting will happen. I myself mentioned that the fear was blown out of proportion as in, the whole anime industry is going to die! But there is no denying that if this ban remains, it's going to be very very painful given the restrictions regardless. After all, from what I read of the law, some of my favorite series will be unduly affected in a very negative way. If they survive at all.
 
No not here....AnimeNewsNetwork is the biggest culprit. I agree, I also feel that nothing will get banned. The problem is the production companies will get punked into stopping a series cause laws really hurt their material
 
Assuming both the descriptions linked are right on the mark, this looks like a deliberately messy situation.


The proposed law is Tokyo only, so this is kind of like if New York City decided to ban tv shows featuring people who've had plastic surgery - weird, overly specific tempest in a teacup, but a really big teacup
Ban isn't a ban, it's a relabeling as "adult", don't know the industry well enough to know to what degree that cuts actual sales
The guidelines are so vague as to be almost nonexistent (the only one that stood out was "photography doesn't count")
Assigning a category is done by some committee so if this ends up being a little too obvious about shooting the goose that laid the golden egg, presumably they take the blame for the politicos


Overall analysis: Complex, high stakes game of "I'm not touching you" played by people who're pretty sure they're important enough to make a stink but too much of an inconsequential pissant to catch any flack from the waves they'll be making. Or at least that's what the articles make it sound like.
 
A few days ago, I decried the panic. I still feel that is a valid. I think this is a dismaying development that certainly may inconvenience or alter the landscape. I just don't see it destroying it. And I also reject the notion that there aren't those in Japan (both the producer and consumer) who WOULDN'T know how to skirt the rules or follow them and simply adapt to a harsher climate.

My read of the landscape isn't this is kinda like Vista: it wasn't a good move for Microsoft, it replaced a beloved, more accessible, comfortable product but at the end of the day...it didn't kill Microsoft. Microsoft may not be the powerhouse it once was but it's by no means irrelevant with so many people using its OS and I don't think that a moral outcry bill will stake one of Japan's (as far as I'm aware) biggest imports in the heart.

So while I think this is a game-changer and businesses are going to have to get in the game to adapt or die off...I don't think Japan's releasing a news clipping saying: well it was a good 65 year run but we're closing up shop and we'll all do ballet now. Thanks for the memories, peace.

Japan is a Constitutional Monarchy, which if Wiki knows what its talking about: officials are elected and sovereignty rests with the people. If this is something so awful, so harmful to their economy, they'll rise up and vote it out.

At worst, we're looking at a rough ride for a few years until things get sorted out and we see where this lands us. I'm not trying to be a sheep here...I'd just rather wait a few months before completely losing my s***. And as a non-citizen of the land of rising sun (a subject might be more accurate), I don't get really any say about this other than voting with my dollar.
 
That only works if the manga publishing industry wants to embrace digital media. As it stands, printed publishers are all afraid of digital media. [And not just in Japan.]


For anime, it's fine. But manga, I don't think so. Once they acknowledge digital distribution as the future, mangakas will begin realize that they do not need to be under the content restriction, deadlines and low commission restrictions publishers impose.

The publishers are all aware of this fact. And the Japanese readers shift to online viewing, which is why they've begun to target scanslations and raws, as well as scare would-be-upstarts from 'going rouge'.

Of course not all artists will leave the publishers behind, as big names have more say on their projects and being published is a sign of how far you've come. But upstarts will change how they market themselves and their works.

Thou their ultimate fear is the loss of control. It's the fear that their competition will increase as others long time artists begin to form their own online publishing sites, changing from signed contractors to content publishers. [In the future, I expect they'll force upstarts to sign non-compete agreements, as part of their contract.]

The same thing is happening with the music industry. British upstarts like Lady Sovereign were born and gained fame without the backing of a major record label behind them, because of digital distribution. Which I'm sure does not please them and formerly signed artists like Fred Durst have formed their own label. Yet another example of how an industry that once monopolized the fates of their artists is now more in control of the artists themselves.

As for anime; it's expensive to produce. Excluding the Tokyo Prefecture from advertisement streams would greatly hurt TV budget shows. This may cause a shift to digital media, but Japan's internet structure is more focused on online mobile support than it is the traditional web browser based structure. Their mobile internet structure is why portable wireless based games like Monster Hunter have been immensely successful and why the Nintendo Wii's online support is greatly lacking.

In the future, I expect to see a rise in OVAs produced and a drop in the amount of TV content produced. At least until this unjust law is overturned, by the Prime Minister and his cabinet. [Did you know that the law only makes it illegal to possess drawn loli? As in it's still legal to posses indecent pictures of real children. Something thrown in at the last minute, I might add. (Makes you wonder who the sick f*** was, in Tokyo's governmental prefecture, who voted to exclude that part. humm....)]

[Yes, I talk too much and divert from the subject far too much... Which is funny, because I'm actually very quite. Anyway...]
 
Yes, while I don't think I've noted here, but while it's true that it's only banned in Tokyo... Tokyo is like the heart of the anime/manga community. Most of the anime/manga companies are based in Tokyo. Simply moving for many of these companies is not an option (especially if they own the building that they're in. Think a company will just give up prime real estate and move to Kyoto in this economy? And if they did try that, would probably have to build a building there which would also cost millions if not billions?).

And it's not just having the facilities in Tokyo that's the issue. It's the fact that Tokyo is probably one of the biggest powerhouses (if not THE) in terms of the Japanese economy. It would be like if the state of California, New York, or Texas decided to ban something. That's a huge chunk of the economy that an anime/manga company would be cutting off if they have a 'defacto' boycott of just Tokyo.

And like what was once said about California towards the US (which I hope is no longer the case. Cali being a complete basket case right now), Tokyo is a trendsetter. What happens in Tokyo, other prefectures/cities/etc. will probably follow suit. Unless/until it's overturned in Tokyo, expect this law to show up in other places.
 
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